The Real Peter Carlile, Attorney
By David Carlisle
Several years ago after the legal admission papers for Peter Carlisle were discovered, I thought that by checking the IGI, we had located his parents at St. Leonard's parish in Shoreditch, London. There was a John Carlisle and his wife Sarah who lived there who had children James and Thomas. In that same parish, a Peter Carlisle married Elizabeth Hopkins, and had children John, Sarah, Elizabeth, Rebecca, Pheby Ann and William. Those children's names were very similar to the names of the children of our John Carlile and Mary Shannon, which were Sarah Ann, George, Rebecca, John George, William and Peter. The children of John Carlile with his second wife Mary Hooley were Maria, Ann, James and Sarah.
The problem was that when I recently reviewed some research commissioned by Alma Carlisle some years ago, the christenings of the children of this and another Peter Carlisle had been extracted from the original records, and it became clear that I had chosen the wrong Peter Carlile. The Peter Carlile who was a lawyer married Anna Maria Adams.
Our interest in Peter Carlile is because he is the clearest link to finding the ancestry of him and his brother John.
The relevant information is as follows:
1786, Peter Carlile born, as calculated from age at death.
2 April 1812, Peter Carlile enters his Articles of Clerkship. Peter was 26 years old.
12 December 1816, Peter Carlile, bachelor, and Anna Maria Greenhalgh, spinster, of St. Saviour, Southwark married by banns, witnessed by John Carlile and John Johnson. Peter signed his name "P. Carlile." Peter was 30 years old.
The researcher suggested that the Poor Rate Books could be checked for Peter Carlile, Edward St, moving backward from about 1818, to see when Peter first moved there, or perhaps if the house belonged to a Carlile before him.
18 August 1818, the Christ Church, Southwark, burial records list William Carlile, Edward Street, aged 2 weeks.
13 November 1818, Peter Carlile of Edward Street, Blackfriars Road, Surry, Gentleman, was admitted as an attorney. Peter signed his name "P. Carlile."
5 April 1822, the Christ Church, Southwark, christening records list Charles Augustus, son of Peter and Maria Carlile, Edward St, Attorney
The family moves from Edward St. to Great Charlotte Street, in Southwark, which is across the Thames River south of about St. Paul's Cathedral in London.
21 April 1826, the Christ Church, Southwark, christening records list George Peter and Thomas John Farr, sons of Peter and Anna Maria Carlile, Great Charlotte Street, Attorney at Law
12 August 1826, the Christ Church, Southwark, burial records list Charles Augustus Carlile, Charlotte Street, 4 years.
1827, The Annual Law List shows Peter Carlile, 9 Great Charlotte Street, Blackfriars. The lists for 1812, 1813, 1819, 1824, 1829, 1830 and 1833 were checked with no result.
1831 census, 9 Great Charlotte Street Head of Household Peter Carlile, Houses 1, Families 1, Occupations not engaged in agriculture or trade manufacturers or handicraft 1, Persons 5 Males 3 Females, Males over 20 years of age 2, Number of merchants, educated men and persons not maintaining themselves by manufacture, trade or bodily labor 2, servants 1 (female)
18 August 1837, the Christ Church burial records list Peter Carlile, Great Charlotte Street, age 51
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Document CP 5/160-21 at Public Records Office, Kew, England:
CP Series refers to Court of Common Pleas.
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In the Common Pleas
PETER CARLILE of Edward Street, Blackfriars Road in the County of Surrey Gentleman maketh Oath and Saith that the Duty of One Hundred and Ten Pounds imposed on Articles of Clerkship by an Act of Parliament lately made and passed was paid on certain Articles of Clerkship made between Edward Day of Pump Court Temple Gentleman one of the Attornies of this Honorable Court of the one part and this Deponent of the other part bearing date the twenty second day of April One Thousand Eight hundred and twelve as appears by the stamp affixed on the said Articles. And this Deponent further saith that the said Articles were executed on the day of the date thereof And this Deponent further saith that he was this day admitted an Attorney of his Majesty's Court of King's Bench
Sworn in court this 13th Day of November 1818 [Signed P. Carlile]
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Let Peter Carlile of Edward Street Blackfriars Road in the County of Surrey Gentleman already admitted as Attorney of his Majesty's Court of King's Bench at Westminster as appears by his admission bearing date of 13th November be admitted and sworn and enrolled an Attorney of his Majesty's Court of Commo Please at Westminster
Dated the 13th Day of November 1818
To the Secretaries of the Court of Common Pleas
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(end of quote)
It appears from the above that the articles were executed on:
2 April 1812
and that he was admitted to practice, first at Kings Bench then at Common Pleas on:
13 November 1818
and also that he was holding his original articles of clerkship when he was admitted to Common Pleas.
It may be worth a second look at CP 5 to determine if the original articles of clerkship are there, or if the name index indicates how many documents relate to Peter Carlile in either 1812 or 1818. It may also be worth checking the records of the court of Kings Bench, or of any other courts to which he may have been admitted on the same day. Some of these records may list the name and even address of Peter's father.
(Check PRO: CP 71, KB 170, KB 106. Double Check PRO: CP 5)
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The researcher's notes indicate that Christ Church burial records are not all available. He checked 1826 to 1826, and 1834 to July 1837, finding Charles Augustus. He says those for 1825, 1829, 1830 and 1833 are "not fit for inspection." He says in a different note that he searched Christ Church burial records from 1813 to 1824, and an index to Christ Church Burial records for 1831 and 1832. In all this he only found William Carlile, 18 August 1818. I have not compared this list with the Family History Library Catalog.
He searched St. Savior Southwark burials from 1813 to 1825, finding only in 1814: Elizabeth Carlile, Union Street, 44 years, presumably the wife of the other Peter Carlile He searched St. Saviour Southwark burials from 1826 to July 1837 with no result.
He searched St Mary, Newington, adjacent to Southwark, index to burials, with no Carlile entries from 1813 to 1835. I searched the same records to 1831 finding various Brooks entries, but no Rebecca (Carlile) Brooks. I noted that some Newington burials appear in St. Saviour Bishop's transcripts, but I did not do a search there for Brooks.
Archdeaconry Court of Surry, index to wills checked 1752 to 1858, no Carlile
Indexes to Estate Duty checked from 1812 to 1826, no Carlile. (Note: Peter died in 1837)
Surrey and PCC probate indexes for "Peter Carlisle who died in 1837" was searched without success.
The London Times checked for marriage notices for Peter, John and Rebecca Carlile, also for a death notice for Peter Carlile, with no result.